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Wednesday, January 18, 2006

The 2005 'spike' list

World Net Daily has released the top 10 underreported and unreported news stories of the year. Here is their list:

1. Failure of the 9-11 commission to investigate "Able Danger."
2. Successes in rebuilding Iraq.
3. Cover-up of David Barrett's probe of Clinton IRS and Henry Cisneros.
4. The impact of illegal immigration on the U.S. and its security.
5.The truth about Terri Schiavo and her death.
6. Sandy Berger's slap on the wrist for stealing classified documents.
7. The fact that WMDs were found in Iraq.
8. Atrocities of radical Islam.
9. Islam's impact on French riots.
10. Good news about the economy.

-WND

I strongly suggest you check out the link, the entire story includes supporting detail on each of the 10 stories they gave.

81 Comments:

  • At 18/1/06 4:38 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Why is it that you think only conservatively biased websites and new sources are accurate? BIAS is BIAS no matter what side it supports. Also, "homemade" websites (not legitimate news sources) that give evidence by linking back to other articles they have written, are absolutely worthless.

     
  • At 18/1/06 4:45 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    Why is it that you think only conservatively biased websites and new sources are accurate?

    Because I'm a Conservative! Sure it's biased, all news organizations have a bias, but this isn't one of those .org sites with little or no truth. Those are the "homemade" sites you speak of. This is a legitimate, it has reporters in Iraq and Israel, it's biased, but it doesn't lie.

    But that aside, what is your problem with this anyways? The fact that the MSM ignored these things and your ignorance helps your arguments? That's what I think, and that's why I posted this.

     
  • At 18/1/06 8:51 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    "Why is it that you think only conservatively biased websites and new sources are accurate?

    Because I'm a Conservative!
    "

    So, you're saying that you're locked into your coservative ways and insist on repeating to the party line regardless on whether or not it's correct?

    Yeah, who would want to hear something that disagrees with them, and maybe have to think about ideas or defend their beliefs?

    I agree Cody, who would want to hear a story without it being warped to fit a particular political agenda first.

     
  • At 19/1/06 6:20 AM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    Why is everyone so worked up over a top 10 list? Don't tell me no one here gets their news from a Liberal news station. Any station but FOX NEWS would most likely qualify.

     
  • At 19/1/06 6:10 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    They don't want to believe it Cody. They are arrogant and blind.

     
  • At 19/1/06 6:54 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Blind? I don't believe whatever is fed to me and it's fairly obvious when someone has messed up so bad they need to exhaggerate tiny positive details to make it look better. I could go on forever, but you'll only call me names so I probably shouldn't waste my time.

     
  • At 19/1/06 7:58 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    when someone has messed up so bad they need to exhaggerate tiny positive details to make it look better.

    Oh yeah because obviously Bush works for World Net Daily. *Rolls eyes*

     
  • At 19/1/06 11:36 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Yeah, that's what that meant...

     
  • At 20/1/06 12:00 PM, Blogger Sofocleto said…

    You could add: Failure of the 9-11 commission to investigate 9/11 events.

    Watch the: VIDEO

     
  • At 20/1/06 4:14 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Uh allosoni you actually think bush works for WND? you are nuts.

     
  • At 20/1/06 5:58 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Darksaturos, do you have the reading comprehension of a hampster? Maybe it's just that unless someone oh so cleverly doesn't put "(sarcasm)" at the end of what they say, you don't get it.

     
  • At 20/1/06 6:27 PM, Blogger PlaidBaron said…

    Well I know I didn't hear those stories. But then again, you can't trust the media.

     
  • At 20/1/06 7:03 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Darksaturos, do you have the reading comprehension of a hampster?

    Hilarious! He spelled 'hamster' wrong while accusing me of having a reading problem!

     
  • At 20/1/06 7:04 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

     
  • At 20/1/06 10:30 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Hilarious! He spelled 'hamster' wrong while accusing me of having a reading problem!

    If you actually found that hilarious, then that would explain why you found Cody's comic tolerable.

    Anyway, as most human beings can comprehend, there's a difference between reading comprehension and typing, let alone the fact that hamster is a commonly misspelled word. The misspelling which I made using a "p" seems to have been proliferated by The Hampster Dance.

    If you're only defense is a typo, then obviously you have no defense at all.

    By the way, just to show you to be careful about throwing stones, here's a list of just a few typos you've made:

    -ridicolous
    -capitilist
    -Afghanastan
    -conspericy
    -wheras
    -hardrives
    -Thier

    Those are just a few, and they took about 2 minutes to find while just scanning quickly. As I said before, this doesn't prove anything. It's just a friendly reminder.

     
  • At 20/1/06 11:36 PM, Blogger gameguy22006 said…

    "Why is everyone so worked up over a top 10 list? Don't tell me no one here gets their news from a Liberal news station. Any station but FOX NEWS would most likely qualify."

    Haha, you guys still won't give up on that whole "liberal media" thing, will you?

     
  • At 21/1/06 8:24 AM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    Republican lies, half-truths, and exaggerations.

    Recommended reading for the hopelessly brainwashed!

     
  • At 21/1/06 11:03 AM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Haha, you guys still won't give up on that whole "liberal media" thing, will you?

    Gameguy I'll answer you because I know you at least to be reasonable, unlike recliner and dk. Listen, MSNBC recentally aired a thing on how no one liked Bush. This was not true and they knew it. They also aired a show on how Bush was going to be impeached which he will not because there are no grounds. Dan Rather aired documents about Bush he KNEW to be false. MSNBC, CBS, and CNN are liberal. FOX is conservative. I'd say we have a liberal media.

     
  • At 21/1/06 11:06 AM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    If you actually found that hilarious, then that would explain why you found Cody's comic tolerable.

    How was it offensive? I'm a bit confused about that.

    By the way, just to show you to be careful about throwing stones, here's a list of just a few typos you've made:

    -ridicolous
    -capitilist
    -Afghanastan
    -conspericy
    -wheras
    -hardrives
    -Thier


    Correct, but I never accused anyone of having a reading problem. I know all you read is dirty magazines but I read things you could never comphrehend. The fact remains I am smarter than you. I have the reading level of a college student. But who cares? No one. If you can't stick to the issues then you are achildish sonofabitch. I'm getting real sick of it.

     
  • At 21/1/06 1:55 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    dark, Just because you disagree with something does not mean it's false. Relying on new stations you know to agree with is very close-minded, and the fact of the matter is that there IS widespread dislike for the president. You really can't deny that after only 51% of the country voted for him in the last election--it is clear that the majority is unhappy. Whether you LIKE it or not, it is the truth. Just because someone reports the truth and it disagrees with your opinion, that does not make it wrong.

     
  • At 21/1/06 4:23 PM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    DarkSaturos said... but I read things you could never comphrehend. The fact remains I am smarter than you. I have the reading level of a college student.

    That is self-deluded nonsense. Your posts make it crystal clear that you have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem. I suggest you face your problem and get the remedial help you need. You may also want to seek psychiatric advice concerning your delusions of grandeur.

    I don't mean this to be an insult. I'm just stating the facts. It's obvious you can't see these facts, clear as they are, and I think you NEED someone to point them out so you can face them. You need help, and the first step is admitting you have a problem.

    DarkSaturos said... I'd say we have a liberal media.

    You're wrong. This is an old tired lie. Everyone except brainwashed Republican sheep recognizes it as such.

     
  • At 21/1/06 7:52 PM, Blogger Mary Ann said…

    You linked a book by someone who also wrote: "How George W. (Mis)leads America," "The Promise of Bruce Springsteen," among others. Why don't you check out this study? Because no matter what you say, that book is an opinion, as opposed to a study. There's a difference.

     
  • At 21/1/06 8:26 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

     
  • At 21/1/06 8:35 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    dark, Just because you disagree with something does not mean it's false.

    You mean like you distrust FOX?

    You really can't deny that after only 51% of the country voted for him in the last election--it is clear that the majority is unhappy.

    Last I checked 51% was a majority.

    To dk: I'm not even going to respond to you anymore. Why don't you just leave?

     
  • At 21/1/06 8:38 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    (It's sad that I have to be more mature than a 33 year old...)

     
  • At 21/1/06 9:27 PM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    Mary Ann said... You linked to a book by someone who also wrote: "How George W. (Mis)leads America", and "The Promise of Bruce Springsteen", among others. Why don't you check out this study?

    Concerning your "study":

    Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias". News outlets including CNN cited a study of several major media outlets by a UCLA political scientist and a University of Missouri-Columbia economist purporting to "show a strong liberal bias". But the study employed a measure of "bias" so problematic that its findings are next to useless, and the authors -- both former fellows at conservative think tanks cited in the study to illustrate liberal bias -- seem unaware of the substantial scholarly work that exists on the topic. [Read More]

    DarkSaturos said... (It's sad that I have to be more mature than a 33 year old...)

    What's sad is that you are ignoring advice that could change your life for the better. Oh well, I tried. I guess you're a lost cause.

     
  • At 22/1/06 1:47 AM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Majority, yes. But a very very pathetic one.

     
  • At 22/1/06 1:50 AM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    How was it offensive? I'm a bit confused about that.

    You are confused by that, yet you claim to be reading at a college level?

    Correct, but I never accused anyone of having a reading problem.

    Again, and I find this distressing that I must repeat this, reading and writing are different things.

    I know all you read is dirty magazines

    You know, the way you and Cody seem to substitute an actual argument for pathetic "potty humor" based entirely on assumptions is pathetic. It shows not only your immaturity, but your sincere lack of experience when it comes to write or maintaining a political discussion.

    but I read things you could never comphrehend.

    That's ironic since you seem to be incapable of understanding even the simplest of language I use. Oh, and next time you want to make a statement boasting your intelligence, spell all the words correctly.

    The fact remains I am smarter than you.

    Now, that is a preposterous statement. I must agree with dfkz here. That kind of statement shows serious delusions of grandeur. I would earnestly suggest that you make an attempt to recognize this as a potential serious problem, but due to your unhardened arrogance and egotism, I'm sure it would fall upon deaf ears.

    I have the reading level of a college student.

    Do you now? Okay then, what are some "college level" books you've read?

    But who cares? No one. If you can't stick to the issues then you are achildish sonofabitch. I'm getting real sick of it

    I can't stick to the issues? Let me just recount a little bit of our conversation for you.

    -You misinterpret a statement by allsion balloni because of your serious reading comprehension issues.

    -I point out the fact that you misinterpreted her statement.

    -You don't respond to the fact that you didn't understand her, but instead point out a spelling error I made.

    -I respond by saying "If you're only defense is a typo, then obviously you have no defense at all."

    -You accuse me of reading pornography.

    Yes, I'm definitely the one who can't stick to the issues.

    Oh, and just incase: (sarcasm)

     
  • At 22/1/06 4:08 PM, Blogger Gayle said…

    You are simply wasting your time argueing with them Cody.

    By the way, I'm glad to see you posting again. I'll check out your blog more often, I promise. :)

    Also, whether they want to admit it or not, the list is the truth, as is everything else you post. Just keep up the good work... and if you are not upsetting a few liberals you aren't doing a good job.

     
  • At 22/1/06 4:09 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    The Recliner said:
    I can't stick to the issues?

    By the looks of things, no. The issue happens to be the top 10 spiked stories, or at least media bias, neither of which you have talked about in the past 3 comments. Everyone but you has stayed on the topic for at least 2 posts (except for those who only posted once and it was on topic). Lets tone down the hypocrisy, okay?

    And one other thing, we all need to lighten up on the insults too. It's pretty bad when you can't make a typo or misinterpret something and not get your intelligence questioned.

     
  • At 22/1/06 4:48 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    By the looks of things, no. The issue happens to be the top 10 spiked stories, or at least media bias, neither of which you have talked about in the past 3 comments. Everyone but you has stayed on the topic for at least 2 posts (except for those who only posted once and it was on topic). Lets tone down the hypocrisy, okay?

    I'll admit that darksaturos and I did stray from the original topic, and it's true, my last three posts did in fact have nothing to do with media bias.

    Why is it though that you don't accuse darksaturos of hypocrisy? He accused me of changing subjects while in fact he was just as guilty of it as I was if not more so at that moment.

    Just to keep this on topic, I believe it is possible to have an unbiased news source. You can simply inform people without twisting the information to fit your agenda.

    And one other thing, we all need to lighten up on the insults too. It's pretty bad when you can't make a typo or misinterpret something and not get your intelligence questioned.

    It's always seemed to me that big angry arguments were all you hoped for on this blog Cody?

    Gayle sure seems to think so.

    "...if you are not upsetting a few liberals you aren't doing a good job."

    Also, posts like "Why I hate Democrats" obviously aren't intended to create a peaceful atmosphere.

    If you do sincerely mean this though, then I hope you realize that in the past you and your friends have been just as guilty of it as anyone else. Then, perhaps, we can move on to a discussion based more on facts than tempers.

     
  • At 22/1/06 5:02 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Oh don't even argue with the nitwits Cody. If the reasonable liberals want to argue ok, but recliner and dk are really quite hopeless.

     
  • At 22/1/06 5:10 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Oh don't even argue with the nitwits Cody. If the reasonable liberals want to argue ok, but recliner and dk are really quite hopeless.

    So Cody, are you going to tell darksaturos to lay off the insults? I think if you do want a less explosive situation, you might want to start with your little friend here.

     
  • At 22/1/06 5:42 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    I said everyone, yes, even including myself. The article you gave me is one I wrote about 5 months ago, just so you know. I am a LOT nicer to Liberals than I was 5 months ago.

    Speaking of which, nice to see you back gameguy22006, seriously. You are one of the few libs on here who can be reasonable.

     
  • At 22/1/06 7:07 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Why is it that in order for someone to be reasonable, they have to agree with you? Certainly there are people who say and do unreasonable things, but that isn't specific to a certain political party. The thing I have learned about every single conservative I know, is that the minute someone says or does anything that contradicts their opinion, they jump all over tham and get offended. That bothers me, as I wish those people would somehow realize that there are not two single people in the world who feel exactly the same way about every single issue. Listening and taking in other peoples opinions is the only way to learn about the world and about yourself.

     
  • At 22/1/06 7:29 PM, Blogger Mary Ann said…

    I linked a study by UCLA, and you linked Media Matters, a George Soros organization. Hmm.

     
  • At 22/1/06 8:14 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    Why is it that in order for someone to be reasonable, they have to agree with you?

    That's not true? There are levels of reasonablity for everyone. Gameguy happens to be more reasonable than anyone else here, even me.

    Lets make a word chart of reasonability here,

    (level 1) Comment has counterpoints to ones arguments (level 2) Includes bigoted viewpoints and bigoted links (level 3) Includes unnecessary insults and put-downs

    I think we can all agree here that people on both sides of the political spectrum range from all three of these levels, even I have strayed into level three on a few occasions.

    The thing I have learned about every single conservative I know, is that the minute someone says or does anything that contradicts their opinion, they jump all over tham and get offended.

    It's called debate isn't it? Don't tell me no Liberal will jump all over me and get offended when I say Bush is great president.

    Listening and taking in other peoples opinions is the only way to learn about the world and about yourself.

    Don't you think a lot more Conservatives would be open-minded if Liberals weren't so hostile all of the time? I know I would at least consider different thinking if I had something explained to me reasonably. In fact, you can start right now on me. I'm sitting on the fence when it comes to the death penalty. Lets see who can sway me by being reasonable and bring up good arguments.

     
  • At 22/1/06 8:16 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    I just said:
    "That's not true? There are levels of reasonablity for everyone."

    Pretend that "?" is a "."

     
  • At 22/1/06 9:05 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Why is it that in order for someone to be reasonable, they have to agree with you?

    Oh okay allosoni so reasonable to you is:

    Darksaturos, do you have the reading comprehension of a hampster?

    hopelessly brainwashed!

    That is self-deluded nonsense. Your posts make it crystal clear that you have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem. I suggest you face your problem and get the remedial help you need. You may also want to seek psychiatric advice concerning your delusions of grandeur.

    If that's reason to you no wonder you're a liberal.

    they jump all over tham and get offended

    Actually that's a liberal trait. Everytime someone says Islamic terrorist you guys get offended.

     
  • At 22/1/06 11:39 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    Dark, what I posted was extremely level headed and shouldn't have been insulting to anyone. PLEASE don't throw around nasty stereotypes, as nothing I said called for that.

    The death penalty. I JUST learned about the death penalty in economics, and I can tell you that before learning about it, I really didn't have anything to say about it. (Keep in mind that I currently reside in a state where capital punishment is ILLEGAL, so we don't usually debate about it here.) However, I know now that from a purely economic standpoint, the death penalty costs an extreme amount more than housing a prisoner for life, as those sentenced go through the appeals process, etc., and that legalizing it in every state will not have really any impact on our current prison overcrowding issues. Those are purely factual, textbook statements.

    On a moral and emotional level, which I believe is a major driving factor for both sides of this issue, I believe it is extremely inhumane. Considering the fact that we can hunt down and capture terrorists from other nations, deem them evil, but then not even torture them, it is rather strange that we send Americans to prison and then kill them. In my eyes, the government definitely has the right to determine who is a danger to society and who isn't, but I don't feel that that gives them any right to determine who deserves to die and who doesn't. We watched a documentary in which a reporter followed a few different cases and then eventually witnessed an execution (the cameras were not allowed in, so the viewing audience didn't see it, just heard the details about it), and to begin with I didn't think that it would be disturbing. However, I found myself rather shaken up and bothered by what I saw and heard. Even my boyfriend, who shares many of your conservative views, felt after learning more about it that it isn't an option that our goverment should be considering, much less putting to use.

    Hopefully both of those points were reasonable enough for you.

     
  • At 23/1/06 2:09 AM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    Mary Ann said... I linked a study by UCLA, and you linked Media Matters, a George Soros organization. Hmm.

    The Article you linked to, titled "Media Bias Is Real", was written by political scientist Timothy J. Groseclose of UCLA and economist Jeffrey D. Milyo of the University of Missouri-Columbia.

    Timothy J. Groseclose and Jeffrey D. Milyo are biased partisan dummies.

    From Media Matters: None of the outlets that reported on the study mentioned that the authors have previously received funding from the three premier conservative think tanks in the United States: the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI), The Heritage Foundation, and the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace. Groseclose was a Hoover Institution 2000-2001 national fellow; Milyo, according to his CV (pdf), received a $40,500 grant from AEI; and, according to The Philanthropy Roundtable, Groseclose and Milyo were named by Heritage as Salvatori fellows in 1997. In 1996, Groseclose and Milyo co-authored a piece for the right-wing magazine The American Spectator, titled "Lost Shepherd", criticizing the then-recently defeated member of Congress Karen Shepherd (D-UT) and defending her successor, Enid Greene (R-UT); when the piece was published, Greene was in the midst of a campaign contribution scandal and later agreed to pay a civil penalty after the Federal Election Commission found that she violated campaign finance laws. [Link]

    Just because the source is (again) the liberally biased Media Matters, does NOT, in any way negate the fact that the authors of this "study" have a CONSERVATIVE bias.

     
  • At 23/1/06 2:14 AM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    Mary Ann said... I linked a study by UCLA, and you linked to Media Matters, a George Soros organization. Hmm.

    Why am I not surprised that you claim, yet again, that my source is biased? Discrediting the source is the FIRST rule of attack for Republicans!

    George Soros' involvement, or lack of involvement, with Media Matters is of ZERO relevance. Anyway, from what I read there appears to be a tenuous link (at best) between George Soros and Media Matters. Media Matters wasn't founded by, isn't run by, and has never received funding directly from George Soros. George Soros doesn't contribute articles to Media Matters. The article I linked to was written by Paul Waldman.

    Media Matters for America is a non-profit organization founded by former journalist (and former conservative) David Brock. Media Matters monitors for and criticizes what it identifies as materially substantiated conservative misinformation found in media news reports, public affairs and talk radio shows. Through the group's web site, launched in May 2004, Media Matters describes itself as "a Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media. Conservative misinformation is defined as news or commentary presented in the media that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda". [Link]

    If there is any bias in the media, it is a CONSERVATIVE bias.

    David Brock: Conservatives Willing to Lie to Influence Media: ...he noted examples of how the "professional" or "mainstream media" are influenced by conservative talk radio, the Internet and think tanks. That influence, Brock said, will diminish as the conservative lies are exposed.

    "The conservatives seem to be particularly vulnerable because the quality of their research is particularly low. There is typically self-interested money behind it and of course they are simply willing to lie", Brock told a group of interns at a luncheon at the Center for American Progress headquarters in Washington D.C.

    Brock urged the young media activists to challenge what he views as the conservative media bias.

    "I think that all of that has to be confronted in a systemic way. If you shine light on propaganda over time, it does cease to have an effect", Brock said. "Their words can be used against them. The fact that the claims that they make are often dubious can also be brought up in a very effective way", he added. [Link]

    A comment from an informed reader concerning the Media Matters Article in Question:

    One of the faults of some economists is that they do not understand the limits of their own field. There is an arrogance that is breath-taking. Often articles are published in even prestigious economics journals that are elementary, flawed and unsophisticated, primarily because they ignore a substantial literature in other social sciences such as psychology or sociology, where scholars have already advanced much further on the topic. That appears to be a big problem with the present study, per the excellent Media Matters report. [Link]

    Cody Said... In fact, you can start right now on me. I'm sitting on the fence when it comes to the death penalty.

    I'm against it except in the case of Presidents who commit Treason.

    One of my Top 10 underreported stories for 2005: Corruption and Cronyism in the rebuilding of Iraq.

    Example:

    Halliburton Cited in Iraq Contamination. January 22, 2006. Troops and civilians at a U.S. military base in Iraq were exposed to contaminated water last year and employees for the responsible contractor, Halliburton, couldn't get their company to inform camp residents, according to interviews and internal company documents.

    Halliburton disputes the allegations about water problems at Camp Junction City, in Ramadi, even though they were made by its own employees and documented in company e-mails.

    "We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated", said a 7/15/2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.

    "The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River", Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.

    Senator Byron Dorgan D-ND, who will chair the session, held a number of similar inquiries last year on contracting abuses in Iraq. He said Democrats were acting on their own because they had not been able to persuade Republican committee chairmen to investigate. [Read More]

    My Number ONE unreported story for 2005 is George W. Bush's UNPRECEDENTED Power Grab (via The "Unitary Executive" Theory).

    Bush's claims that he has the authority to ignore the Geneva Conventions. His shocking admission that, since 2002, he has repeatedly authorized the National Security Agency to conduct electronic surveillance without a warrant, in flagrant violation of applicable federal law. And the Presidential "signing statement" he recently attached to the recent McCain sponsored Anti-torture bill -- All these declarations echo the refrain Bush has been asserting from the outset of his presidency. That refrain is simple: Presidential power must be unilateral, and unchecked. They make clear that the phrase "unitary executive" is a code word for a doctrine that favors nearly unlimited executive power. [Link]

    From Wikipedia -- The Unitary Executive theory: In American political and legal discourse, the unitary executive theory (UET) involves two facets: a procedural view of how the executive branch should operate, and a substantive view of the scope of executive power.

    More crudely put, UET is concerned with what the President can do, and how he may do it. It is associated with conservative legal thought and the Federalist Society, and while it originally came to prominence in regard to the independent counsel law (see Morrison v. Olson), it has recently returned to the limelight with some of the actions of President George W. Bush and the Senate confirmation hearing of Judge Samuel Alito.

    In its strict definition, the unitary executive theory emphasizes the language of the Article II ยง1 of the Constitution of the United States:

    "The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America".

    The unitary executive theory contends that this language vests all of the executive power of the United States in the person of the President... At its base, the unitary executive concept is that the Constitution vests the executive power of the United States in the President, and thus the President has the power to appoint, direct and remove executive officers, and to interpret the law as it applies to the actions of the executive branch, in the absence of judicial determination.[Link]

    Further Reading:

    From Consortium News: Alito & the Ken Lay Factor

    Monday January 23, 2006

     
  • At 23/1/06 3:12 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Dark, what I posted was extremely level headed and shouldn't have been insulting to anyone.

    You didn't post those things no, but people who you said were reasonable did. And what does the death penelty have to do with anything?

    I believe it is extremely inhumane.

    Because murder isn't of course.

     
  • At 23/1/06 7:01 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    If you read Cody's comments, you would know why I commented about the death penalty.

     
  • At 23/1/06 7:50 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    And what does the death penelty have to do with anything?

    That one would be my fault for starting. I was just saying how I couldn't decide if I was for or against the death penalty. I think I'm leaning towards keeping it, but keeping it very limited.

     
  • At 23/1/06 8:58 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    If you read Cody's comments, you would know why I commented about the death penalty.

    *Patient Sigh*

    Yes Allosoni I know Cody started it, I do in fact read all the comments, which is how I know you are completely arrogent, which is typical in holier than thou liberals like you. In any case my question still stands. The death penelty has nothing to do with this subject.

     
  • At 23/1/06 10:33 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    which is how I know you are completely arrogent

    "I am smarter than you."

    -Darksaturos

    "I read things you could never comphrehend."

    -Darksaturos

    "I have the reading level of a college student."

    -Darksaturos

    "I'm not even going to respond to you anymore. Why don't you just leave?"

    -Darksaturos

    Hmm, those quotes seem to paint you as the arrogant one, don't they?

    I'm sure if you spent the time you could find somewhat damging quotes showing anyone as arrogant, but I do doubt if anyone else will come up with a quote as damaging as "I am smarter than you." That's pretty arrogant.

     
  • At 24/1/06 12:38 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    Do me next! Do me next!

     
  • At 24/1/06 12:58 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Do me next! Do me next!

    Truthfully, I'd rather not. Since you made the post about calming down you've been much more reasonable, easier to converse with, and significantly less aggressive towards others. Why would I want to ruin that?

    It's just seems that Darksaturos doesn't seem to want to jump the reasonable train to conversation-ville.

     
  • At 24/1/06 1:05 PM, Blogger Gayle said…

    Cody said: "Do me next! Do me next!" ROTFALMAO

    I'm too happy today to argue with anyone. It is important to the United States that Canadadian conservatives win their election, and they seem to have done it! I know this is "off subject" and I apologize. But their Prime Minister Paul Martin was demonizing the US and Canada has really been hurting, so I'm celebrating for Canada today. Just thought I'd stop by and see what was going on.

    Now that I have seen what is going on I will take my leave. Y'all have a good time here, hear?

     
  • At 24/1/06 3:00 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    but I do doubt if anyone else will come up with a quote as damaging as "I am smarter than you." That's pretty arrogant.

    Yes I said those after you insulted me. Its completally different. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

     
  • At 24/1/06 3:01 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Again though, personal insults mean nothing. Real argument please.

     
  • At 24/1/06 3:14 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    "I wouldn't expect you to understand."

    -Darksaturos

    Thanks for the new quote.

    Again though, personal insults mean nothing. Real argument please.

    Personal insults? I simply quoted you, then made a reasonable conclusion. As for a "real argument," you called Allisoni Balloni arrogant, and cited arrogance as a liberal trait.

    I simply responded to that.

     
  • At 24/1/06 5:03 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Oh I see you don't have a real arguement so you dodged the question. Ok I understand.

     
  • At 24/1/06 5:18 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Ok Darksaturos, what exactly is the question that I'm dodging here? I posted in response to you calling allisoni arrogant, that's all. So, what's the big topic I refuse to comment on?

    Speaking of not answering questions, I'm still waiting for a listing of some of that college level material you enjoy so much.

     
  • At 24/1/06 5:27 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Ok Darksaturos, what exactly is the question that I'm dodging here? I posted in response to you calling allisoni arrogant, that's all. So, what's the big topic I refuse to comment on?


    The question is why do you dispute the "spike list" even though it's from a news source.

    Speaking of not answering questions, I'm still waiting for a listing of some of that college level material you enjoy so much.

    Just because my reading level is college level doesn't mean I read college textbooks. You are showing an amazing lack of intellegence.

     
  • At 24/1/06 5:52 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    The question is why do you dispute the "spike list" even though it's from a news source.

    I've never disputed the spike list. I only disputed the fact that Cody seems to only accept conservatively biased news sources as correct. Personally I think the only accurate source is a source without any kind of bias.

    Just because my reading level is college level doesn't mean I read college textbooks. You are showing an amazing lack of intellegence.

    Sounds like someone's struggling to back up a false claim. College level material doesn't mean a textbook. Someone who actually reads at a college level would know that.

    Also, and this is more ironic than evidentiary, you'd think when you're questioning someone's intelligence you'd spell the word correctly.

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:00 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Sounds like someone's struggling to back up a false claim. College level material doesn't mean a textbook. Someone who actually reads at a college level would know that.

    Sigh. I don't really need to prove it to you. I'm better then you anyway.

    Also, and this is more ironic than evidentiary, you'd think when you're questioning someone's intelligence you'd spell the word correctly.

    Nice use of spell check recliner.

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:01 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    (*Whispers* Now watch him freak out at my inflammatory comments. I'm looking forward to it.)

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:05 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Yess, reclinerr I typ lik thise ande eye spelle bade to. I ame as dum as a stumpe ande lik to reade Dokter Sues.

    (My my this is fun.)

    Did that make you happy recliner? Are you glad now? Do you get a kick out of insulting 15 year olds? Get a life loser.

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:11 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    You see we can all take a lesson from the recliner here. Several in fact. You have choices in life. You can chose to insult children online because you have no arguement or job, save writing a blog about laziness, or you can defend your position with logic and reason. You can also go to college, get a job and make money. Or you could be a recliner and laze around, get fat etc. The choice is yours. Just don't choose like recliner did. Don't be a complete loser and insult people from the safety of your laptop. Back up your arguements like the reasonable conservatives and liberals here, don't stoop to the level of a professional moron.

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:13 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    P.S. I find it ironic recliner should tease me about reading comphrehension. Check out this excerpt from his blog.

    1. Don't check your punctuation and spelling.


    Oops.

     
  • At 24/1/06 6:59 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    As much as I get a kick out of this whole "reading comprehension debate" it really isn't going too far.

    You can chose to insult children

    I guess you can speak for yourself here, because I would like to think of myself as a young adult nearing the age of 16, but that's just me.

    I think it's time for a new post, but what to write....what to write......

     
  • At 24/1/06 7:19 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    I guess you can speak for yourself here, because I would like to think of myself as a young adult nearing the age of 16, but that's just me.

    Don't be so full of yourself you know. :) We're children until age 18. That's my opinion anyway.

     
  • At 24/1/06 7:35 PM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    DarkSaturos said... Did that make you happy recliner? Are you glad now? Do you get a kick out of insulting 15 year olds? Get a life loser.

    Because your age is low you can insult people and they can't respond?

    DarkSaturos said... (My my this is fun.)

    Perhaps the reason that you find mouthing off to adults on the internet so much fun is that you can't get away with it in reality. I think you're a arrogant spoiled brat.

    DarkSaturos said... *Whispers* Now watch him freak out at my inflammatory comments. I'm looking forward to it.

    Freak out? I doubt it. Why should anyone be insulted by anything a deluded arrogant brat with reading comprehension problems says?

    I don't apologize for the personal attacks in this post. After stating that "personal insults mean nothing", we get 5 posts in a row of personal attacks?! I think it's clear who is "freaking out". If you don't have any actual arguments why don't you leave.

    To answer your question: The "spike list" is from a CONSERVATIVELY BIASED website. I dispute their claim that these stories are "the top 10 underreported and unreported stories of the year". I'd say at least half contain outright lies, and the others half-truths and exaggerations. A clear example of the conservative media bias.

    Cody Said... I think it's time for a new post, but what to write....what to write......

    How about a retraction of your claim that Jack Abramoff bribe money went to Democrats. I took another look at the website you linked to -- the one which "proved" that Republicans AND Democrats received money. The first time I looked at it I didn't notice that there is a drop down box which enabled sorting by donor.

    All the (bribe) money that came from "Donor: Abramoff, Jack A & Pamela" went to Republicans, and Republicans ONLY. It's right there in black and white -- on the website YOU linked to.

    I really hope the voters aren't stupid enough to fall for these Republican lies. If not the Democrats should gain significant house and senate seats in 2006 and then be able to start impeachment proceedings!

     
  • At 24/1/06 7:53 PM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    Yes, I've seen the link. But I'm still not convinced that the money that Democrats are getting is illegal, but the fact is, is that I don't know who's breaking the law and who isn't with this case. I'll leave that for a prosecutor to decide. I just want all corrupt politicians to replaced, especially Republicans, because at this time of war, having a Democrat as president would be suicide.

     
  • At 24/1/06 11:11 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    "Yes Allosoni I know Cody started it, I do in fact read all the comments, which is how I know you are completely arrogent, which is typical in holier than thou liberals like you. In any case my question still stands. The death penelty has nothing to do with this subject."

    Good job making a fool of yourself, there. All I did was respond, calmly, to CODY'S request. I was in no way trying to link the death penalty to the topic of the post, as I didn't even bring it up in the first place. You DIDN'T read the comment Cody left about it, or there would have been no reason whatsoever for you to have told me it was off topic. My "arrogance," or so you say, also has nothing at all to do with this argument. I can, in all reality, be as arrogant as I darn well please, and it has nothing to do with my political persuasion. However,when you have an opinion and confidently support it, maybe that comes across as arrogance. YOUR arrogance comes from insults and weak arguments. I'm PROUD mine comes from where it does and not from the same place you get yours.

     
  • At 25/1/06 3:08 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    I can, in all reality, be as arrogant as I darn well please

    And I can't of course. Because you're better. That's your reasoning and that's why you prove my point. I think this debate's gone as far as it can go. No one's sticking to the issues. It's just personal attacks. I'll see all of you in the next post and we'll see how long it takes for you all to start the personal attacks there.

     
  • At 25/1/06 3:26 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Wow, that was quite the little outburst you had there Darksaturos. It's not often that I get to see someone quintuple post.

    Sigh. I don't really need to prove it to you. I'm better then you anyway.

    I'd say thanks for the new arrogance quote, but I can see that it's intentional now that you've been outed.

    Please Darksaturos, not even 7 year-olds buy the "I don't have to prive it to you" routine.

    Nice use of spell check recliner.

    Actually, I don't have to use spell check to know how to spell a basic word like intelligence.

    (*Whispers* Now watch him freak out at my inflammatory comments. I'm looking forward to it.)

    That would have a lot more meaning had you not just thrown a giant hissy fit.

    Did that make you happy recliner? Are you glad now? Do you get a kick out of insulting 15 year olds? Get a life loser.

    No, if I got a kick out of insulting 15 year-olds, I'd hang out around a local high school insulting people based on their physical appearance. I'm sure this sounds like a good time to you, but cruelty to innocent people isn't exactly my cup of tea.

    I don't even get a kick out of debating a pathetic, arrogant, little fool like yourself, though watching you freak out like this while refusing to answer any questions is pretty nice. You really might want to calm down you're making a fool of yourself.

    You can chose to insult children online because you have no arguement or job...

    Well, if you're going to go ahead and classify yourself as a child, then maybe you log off, have a juice box, and let the adults talk, okay?

    Also, referring to yourself as a child at 15? You're a teenager, a snotty, spoiled, immature one sure, but a teenager none the less. Act your age.

    because you have no arguement

    I'm going to assume you're talking about yourself here, since my comment was at least partially about the issues.

    You can also go to college, get a job and make money

    What exactly do you know about that? You just said you were a child, and admitted to being 15. You really need to calm down for about 10 years, before you can start talking about life and expect people to listen to you.

    Or you could be a recliner and laze around, get fat etc.

    Actually, I'm in quite good shape. I like to take care of my body, eating healthy, and keeping a regular physical fitness routine.


    So, where'd you get the idea that I'm fat and never went to college? Sounds kind of like you made it up.

    Don't be a complete loser and insult people from the safety of your laptop.

    Again, you must be talking about yourself here, since that's exactly what you're doing.

    P.S. I find it ironic recliner should tease me about reading comphrehension. Check out this excerpt from his blog.

    1. Don't check your punctuation and spelling.


    Oops.


    Ouch, you really got me there siting my joke blog.

    Seriously though, thanks for reading the blog. Visitors++ for me.

    So Cody, you going to ask Darksaturos to calm down? I think his leaving would allow for a much more reasonable debate.

    I think it's time for a new post, but what to write....what to write......

    I know of some interesting recent events, but I don't recall any that would really be up your alley. I'll keep an eye open though.

     
  • At 25/1/06 4:08 PM, Blogger PlaidBaron said…

    The Recliner and DarkSaturos:

    This may be a bit old but when you two where attacking each others spelling, what the heck does that have to do with anything!? It really has nothing to do with the issue!

     
  • At 25/1/06 5:19 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    The Recliner and DarkSaturos:

    This may be a bit old but when you two where attacking each others spelling, what the heck does that have to do with anything!? It really has nothing to do with the issue!


    I agree, which is why I never brought up Darksaturos's errors until the point when he made it an issue. Even then I said:

    If you're only defense is a typo, then obviously you have no defense at all.

    &

    this doesn't prove anything

     
  • At 25/1/06 5:44 PM, Blogger Allisoni Balloni said…

    You clearly didn't understand my comment. But you know, that's really okay.

     
  • At 25/1/06 6:01 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Yay, he freaked out! Just like I predicted!

     
  • At 25/1/06 9:16 PM, Blogger The Recliner said…

    Yay, he freaked out! Just like I predicted!

    I'd have to say what I did was respond, and rather calmly. You used more explanation points in your two sentence response, than I used in my whole "freak out."

    I never used all caps, and I only bolded two words, just to signify importance, not tone.

    By saying I freaked out, you've only proven your own ability to lie to yourself.

    I'm still waiting on a list of some of that college level material by the way, and no excuses this time.

     
  • At 26/1/06 6:30 AM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    dkfz:

    I think it would be safe to say there is bias on both sides in every aspect of communication. We could argue all day who is MORE biased, but it won't go anywhere. We all know that Liberals have more bias in television and newspapers, and that Conservatives have more bias in radio and books.

     
  • At 26/1/06 2:20 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

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  • At 26/1/06 2:31 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    I'm not responding anymore recliner. It doesn't go anywhere. Don't bother arguing with me on this post any longer. I will ignore all of your comments directed at me.

     
  • At 26/1/06 3:05 PM, Blogger PlaidBaron said…

    The Recliner Said: I agree, which is why I never brought up Darksaturos's errors until the point when he made it an issue. Even then I said:

    If you're only defense is a typo, then obviously you have no defense at all.

    Ah, then if you truly don't like blaming people for that then you wouldn't have argued against him with his same argument, you would have argued against him differently. See?

     
  • At 31/1/06 6:33 AM, Blogger Cody O'Connor said…

    darksaturos said...
    "I'm not responding anymore recliner. It doesn't go anywhere. Don't bother arguing with me on this post any longer. I will ignore all of your comments directed at me."

    This may end the reading comprehension debate, but trust me, you'll end up talking to him again, he comes back every time. Then again, I'll debate with just about anyone though.

     
  • At 31/1/06 2:35 PM, Blogger Robert M. said…

    Well of course I'll talk to him, I only said I won't when he starts with the "reading comphrehension" s*** because he has no arguement. I don't want to argue for 60 posts about something that doesn't matter, that's all.

     
  • At 31/1/06 8:32 PM, Blogger w-dervish said…

    DarkSaturos said... Well of course I'll talk to him, I only said I won't when he starts with the "reading comphrehension" s*** because he has no arguement. I don't want to argue for 60 posts about something that doesn't matter, that's all.

    I was the one who first pointed out your reading comprehension problem -- give credit where it is due, please. And YES, I think it matters!! It gets extremely frustrating when you continually misinterpret, and add your own meaning to, other people's posts.

     

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